Creative Confidence Podcast

How a Playful Mindset Leads to Better Work: Cas Holman & Michelle Lee

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February 4, 2026

Play isn’t the opposite of serious work. It’s a leadership mindset that helps teams stay curious, creative, and effective under pressure. In this episode of the Creative Confidence Podcast, host Mina Seetharaman is joined by Cas Holman, play designer and author of Playful, and Michelle Lee, IDEO Partner and Executive Co-Managing Director, to explore how play supports better questions, psychological safety, and innovation at work.Why playfulness can improve collaboration, experimentation, and creative quality.

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